Our trailer, 'Nitsitapiisinni', and truck, 'Mighty Moe' at Eagle Lake, Susanville, CA |
We get lots of
questions about being full-timers, but the most common is about our trailer. Other than the question about whether or not
one can afford to live on the road full-time, which I tried to address in my
blog "Can we afford to be full-timers", this is probably the most important issue. In what are you going to live? I would never consider a blog telling you what
to buy. I’m not you, and I’m sure you’re grateful for that.
My daughter is a
financial planner/advisor. On a wall in her company’s offices are pictures of
clients who have retired. Pamela and my
picture is on that wall and a lot of people ask her about our experiences and
how we full-time. I started putting this
information together so she could share it with them and then decided that it
might be interesting to others.
The first thing that
anyone must remember is that the living unit you select is your
decision. It can not be anyone else’s decision.
No matter how much I love having a trailer and your Uncle Bob loves his
Class-A, you must look at all options and try to figure out what fits your
wants, need, and budget. You might roll out in a Class-B+ or C. If you don’t get yourself into overwhelming debt,
you can always change. Just remember. Like a car, a new RV is only worth about 50%
what you paid the minute you drive it off the lot.
We strongly suggest
that you spend the months before going full-time studying units, listening to
people like us who have experience, going to show rooms (don’t buy! Just
look!), and talking about where you want to be able to go with your unit, how
much space you think you need, how much space you actually need (usually a whole lot less than the former), and other similar important issues.
This is 'Willy', a 16 foot 35 year old Fleetwood Wilderness. We loved this trailer and totally rebuilt it. This is where we started |
Here is our experience
and what we selected. We started out as
not-quite full-timers and spent most of our first three plus years living in a
35 year old 16 foot camper trailer that we rebuilt. We called it Willie, and we loved that
trailer. If it hadn’t been for the fact that Pamela had to have both of her
knees replaced and one didn’t go well, we’d probably still be living in Willie.
But we felt that we needed a trailer (1) that was as short as possible so we
can go almost anywhere, (2) had a walk around bed, (3) had a full bath (Pamela
needs the tub for her knees), (4) had a nice kitchen (that was for me), and (5)
had a double axle. Here’s what we have
today.
1. Our trailer is a 20 foot 2017 Keystone Springdale which we
purchased in July 2016. We do not have slides. We don't want slides for three
reasons: (i) they frequently need repair; (ii) they leak air and often water; and (iii) when
they are in they take up a lot of room, often making the unit unusable. We have
a full bath (tube, shower, etc), and queen-size walk around bed. I love to
cook, so we have a nice gas stove with oven, medium size fridge and double
sink. We replaced the square table with a round pedestal. Our sitting/dining
area is at the rear end and has a giant window. After living in 112 square
feet, living in 160 square feet with higher ceiling is palatial.
2. Our stove, fridge, hot water and furnace
run on propane. On the rare occasion that we have ‘pole-power’ (exterior AC
electricity into which we plug the trailer), the fridge and hot water will also run
on electricity. We paid $413 for propane for the entire 2017 and we don’t skimp.
This is our home. We want to be comfortable. Our furnace is forced hot air with
floor vents. Since we have a four season package (partially covered underbelly)
the floor vents help keep pipes, etc., under the floor, from freezing. It also
does a great job keeping the unit comfortable.
Floor heat is phenomenal. A lot of our friends who do not have floor
heat are spending money on supplemental heating units. Many people use inverters to turn the 12
volt power from their battery(ies) into 110 AC, like house current. We don't do
that. We live off-the-grid (totally self-contained) over 80% of the time. We
just use 12 volt. Why invert if it isn’t necessary? It takes some of your power to run an
inverter. We have some small inverters (150,300) for things which need 110,
like or computer chargers, the television and DVD player. Otherwise we don't have anything requiring 110. (fn-1) It is much easier just to go all 12 volt. We use all LED lights. I even converted some lamps
so that they have LED bulbs and 12 volt. LED not only saves a lot of money but
are cool in the summer. (fn-2)
Nitsitapiisinni in the desert southeast of Quartzsite, AZ at the 2018 RTR (Rubber Tramp Rendezvous) |
3. As I said, we are totally self-contained.
The only thing that drives us back into ‘civilization’ is to dump our holding
tanks and take on fresh water. If you think you want to do a lot of boondocking (dry camping off the grid) be mindful of the capacity of the three tanks on the unit - grey (sink water), black (toilet sewage), and fresh water (potable drinking water). Once you get started bookdocking, there will be lots of us around to help you with ideas about conserving water.
4. Our electricity comes from photovoltic panels. This is the new solar technology. It is unbelievable! We have two 160 watt panels on our roof, which are more than sufficient for our need, and one 80 watt portables. We had two portables first and keep one in case we want more power for some reason. The remaining portable has a 50 foot cord so we have great flexibility where we put it and have used it when the roof-top panels are totally or partially in shade. The great thing about the new technology is that it doesn't require direct sunlight to work. It works best with direct sun, but we have actually seen panels produce electricity in moonlight. Of course, it wasn't enough to run an LED bulb but it was pretty neat to see and confirmed the efficacy of the technology. Our roof-top panels are mounted flat on the roof - no need to prop them up - and on a sunny day our batteries are fully charged well before noon. We have a Blue Sky “Sun Charger 30” which is a top-of-the-line 30 amp 3 stage control panel. Our photovoltic panels go directly to our batteries. We were told by experts, that running your solar through your unit’s system loses power. We have 2- Full River 6 volt AGM 224 amp hour batteries. We can run the furnace all night (fans tend to pull a lot of power) and still awakened with 12.1-12.3 volts. You need to find an expert. Most are in the southwest. Carefully check out the person from whom you buy. Our two panels, control panel and installation cost us around $1,800 in 2017.
4. Our electricity comes from photovoltic panels. This is the new solar technology. It is unbelievable! We have two 160 watt panels on our roof, which are more than sufficient for our need, and one 80 watt portables. We had two portables first and keep one in case we want more power for some reason. The remaining portable has a 50 foot cord so we have great flexibility where we put it and have used it when the roof-top panels are totally or partially in shade. The great thing about the new technology is that it doesn't require direct sunlight to work. It works best with direct sun, but we have actually seen panels produce electricity in moonlight. Of course, it wasn't enough to run an LED bulb but it was pretty neat to see and confirmed the efficacy of the technology. Our roof-top panels are mounted flat on the roof - no need to prop them up - and on a sunny day our batteries are fully charged well before noon. We have a Blue Sky “Sun Charger 30” which is a top-of-the-line 30 amp 3 stage control panel. Our photovoltic panels go directly to our batteries. We were told by experts, that running your solar through your unit’s system loses power. We have 2- Full River 6 volt AGM 224 amp hour batteries. We can run the furnace all night (fans tend to pull a lot of power) and still awakened with 12.1-12.3 volts. You need to find an expert. Most are in the southwest. Carefully check out the person from whom you buy. Our two panels, control panel and installation cost us around $1,800 in 2017.
Nitsitapiisinni at Annie Creek, free dispersed camping just outside the southern entrance to Crater Lake Nat'l Park. |
5. One last word on your primary living unit. If you are leaning toward a trailer, I would never full-time in a single-axle trailer. Double-axle units are easier to maneuver and backup, and they are safer in the event of a blow-out. You also need a good hitch system. We have a heavy-duty Blue Ox.
You can't talk about trailers or fifth-wheels without talking, at least briefly, about the tow vehicle. That's really one of the most important ingredients, and often more expensive than your living unit. Again, I'm not going to tell you what to buy. But I am going to make a few suggestions and tell you about what we have.
As with your living unit, you must take the time to think about what appeals most to you and what is in your budget. You need to do a lot of research and ask a lot of questions. Don't just buy what the salesperson at the dealership suggests. There is a fairly good chance that they have no idea about towing. Sadly, there is also a good chance that their recommendation will bring them the most commissions. You need to talk to full-timers like us who actually tow 15,000 or more miles a year. Our 2013 Dodge Ram has about 108,000 miles and the majority of those miles it had a trailer attached. Some people say that for lighter units the Dodge 1500 is the best, but the Ford F250 is superior to the Dodge 2500 for heavier units. Listen to these arguments and use them to guide your decision. Again, be careful of the budget.
Mighty Moe - 2013 Ram 1500 half-ton heavy with tow package, beefed up rear suspension, 6'6" bed with cap. We keep our bikes, scuba gear, tool box, camping supplies and other items in here. |
No matter what you're pulling behind you, or what you're driving, it first of all must fulfill your needs. Is it going to be comfortable? Can you afford it? If you buy a quarter-million dollar Class-A on two Social Security checks a month, you're probably not going to be able to make the payments never-the-less go anywhere. If you have plenty of money and select a small unit like ours when you feel like you need to travel with about half the contents of your 4,000 sq ft house, you're not going to be happy. Remember this . . . . if you buy well within your budget, and you realize that you made a poor choice or just change your mind, you will be able to trade. If you over-spend, you're stuck.
If you have other questions about the cost of full-timing or picking your unit, or just questions about full-timing, don't hesitate to contact me at revance@gmail.com.
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FOOTNOTES
(1) We got the television to watch DVDs. We don't use it much any more since they came out with some neat, small, 12V players. We only use the TV when we want "big screen". There are 12V televisions. Buying a small pure sine wave inverter to power ours was easier and less expensive.
(2) If you buy an older trailer that has standard 12V bulbs, it is well worth the money to replace all of them with LED. We have seen the old standard bulbs literally melt a plastic globe. LED use less energy, therefore cost less to run and take less out of your battery(ies), and reduce heat in the summer.
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